Agent completely stopped retrieving from Knowledge Base after file replacement

Hi team. I am experiencing a persistent retrieval issue. My agent was previously reading and using an attached Knowledge Base perfectly. I deleted that initial KB and uploaded a new updated version. Since that deletion, the agent has completely stopped pulling any data from the new KB.

Here is what I have already tested to isolate the issue

  • Verified the conversational node is set to “Prompt” (LLM mode) and the new KB is properly linked to the node.

  • Formatted the text perfectly using Markdown with proper headings for chunking.

  • Created entirely new Knowledge Bases from scratch to rule out a single corrupted file.

  • Rewrote the global prompt to strictly force KB retrieval.

Despite all of this, the agent acts as if the KB is empty and defaults to its fallback prompt instructions. I suspect there is a backend vectorization error, a stuck status, or a caching bug preventing the agent from indexing the newly uploaded files.

Could you please check the backend logs for these IDs to see if the processing is stuck or throwing a hidden error?

Agent ID agent_68dcdf44a7469f3486b2adabd2

Knowledge Base ID knowledge_base_ddc3495bf6a1437d

Thank you for your help.

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Thank you for sharing this. I’ve forwarded it to our internal team for review.

We’ll keep you updated as soon as we have more information.

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Hi @mapp.ai.branded

There appear to be intermittent errors. Could you please try again?

Thank You

Hi team.
I just tried again and the issue is still happening. To clarify the exact symptom, the agent is completely ignoring the attached Knowledge Base. Whenever I ask a question that is clearly answered in the KB, the agent immediately defaults to the fallback sentence I wrote in my global prompt which is “Bu detayı bölge yöneticimiz sizinle paylaşacaktır”.
This confirms the LLM is processing the prompt correctly, but the retrieval from the KB is failing or returning zero chunks.

The KB was working just fine, until i deleted it, and then created new KB. I created several KBs but none works.

Could you please look deeper into why the retrieval is failing for my KBs.

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Thank you for your response. I’ve shared this with our team.

We’ll keep you updated as soon as we have more information.

Thank You

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Could you provide some call IDs that you are seeing the issues?

Thank you.

Sure I can share call ID, but all my last calls was KB testing. So all of them you will see the same problem.

call_d04d7c790dbcf8a759ef2e0616f
Q: Çocuğumla çalışabilir miyim? (you can see the information in the KB)

You can see my KB text uploads shows as 0 kb.

It used to be 40KB when I uploaded.

I recently tried with PDF, it shows 50KB but no function

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Thank you for your response. I’ve shared this with our team for further review.

Hi Mark, is there a big problem we are facing now?

Is support working during weekends?
I’m so close to Demo presentation with my client. This is the last step. Looking forward to present on monday to my client. Will we fix by that time?

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Your issue has already been forwarded to our team. Once we receive an update, either I or a team member will get back to you.

Thank you for your patience!

Hi I’m wondering is the technical support working on weekends?

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

We have checked the calls and can confirm that the agent is not completely ignoring the KBs.

Thank you for looking into this, but the red box you highlighted is not proof that the Knowledge Base is functioning correctly. The phrase “Bir bin beş yüz” that appears right below your highlight is being pulled directly from the global prompt, not the Knowledge Base.

The core issue remains unresolved. The agent used to answer these exact same questions perfectly using the KB, and now it completely fails to retrieve that data.

This technical roadblock is entirely freezing my ability to publish this project. I need your team to help me get this agent working correctly today.

Since Retell is functioning fine globally but my specific agent is stuck in this retrieval error, let us take a proactive workaround. I want a clean start. I guess that will bring back the abilities I used to have in this agent.

Could your engineering team please take my existing flow and migrate it to a brand new database and a fresh agent instance.
Let us just put everything into a fresh backend environment so we can bypass whatever is corrupted in this current instance.
(In case of a bad stiuation, I have a copy of my global prompt and the KB text ready to go.)

I look forward to getting this reset and working today.

I’ll send your request to our team and share their feedback with you shortly.

Thank you

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

If you check the call’s history and click on ‘Knowledge base retrieval’, you can see that we retrieved KB chunks.
Could you check to confirm if either of the following are true:

  1. Some relevant content of the KB are not retrieved.

  2. The retrieved KB chunks are relevant, but they are not used by the agent.

Alright, since you showed me what to look, I can clearly see that my agent doesn’t retrieval KB 99% of the time.

I checked many call history. After my questions, KB retrieval is not triggered at all,
O detayı… is the default fallback sentence:

What can we do to solve this?

Almost 10 of my recent test calls, there was no KB retrieval. In all of them, I asked something from KB.

How can we solve this problem? It has been 6 days like this, and I’m so far from my deadline…

(attachments)

I’m constantly looking at my mailbox. Can you please give me an update?

Hi @mapp.ai.branded

Our KB retrieval threshold was tested in English, you might need a different one for Turkish actually.

Could you please try adjusting these settings to see if it improves recall?